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Robinson, Daisy L (b. 1897, d. BET APR 1967 AND JUN 1967)

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Harris, Emily Louisa (b. , d. BET OCT 1957 AND DEC 1957)

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Skingle, Stephen (b. 1807, d. 7 JUL 1881)

Note: Occ. 1857 Jobber
Occ. 1881 Milkman

http://www.geocities.com/skingle62/steph1g1.asp#steph1
Son of Unknown and Unknown.

Occupation: Cow Dealer & Milkman
Date: 1841
Age: 34y

Occupation: Cow Dealer
Date: 1861
Age: 54y

Occupation: Dairyman
Date: 1871
Age: 64y

Occupation: Milkman
Date: 1881
Age: 74y

Census: Date: 1841
Place: Parsonage Down, Great Dunmow, Essex
Address: HO107/328/7
Age: 34y

Census: Date: 1861
Place: 10 Bishops Mews, Kensington, London
Age: 54y

Census: Date: 1871
Place: 46 Fitzroy Road, St. Pancras, London
Age: 64y

Census: Date: 1881
Place: North Street, Star Hill, Geat Dunmow, Essex

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Bradfield, Elizabeth (Wells?) (b. 1809, d. 14 JUL 1891)

Census: Date: 1841
Place: Parsonage Down, Great Dunmow, Essex
Age: 33y

Census: Date: 1861
Place: 10 Bishops Mews, Kensington, London
Age: 52y

Census: Date: 1871
Place: 46 Fitzroy Road, St. Pancras, London
Age: 62y

Census: Date: 1881
Place: North Street, Star Hill, Geat Dunmow, Essex
Age: 72y

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Piggin, Ada Clementina (b. , d. 1904)

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Boeg, Herbert John Edward (b. BET APR 1925 AND JUN 1925, d. 5 NOV 1944)

Note: Memorial Ref: 75, 1

Note: Royal Navy - H.M.L.C.T(R) 457
LCT Mk5, the (R) means ROCKET
No.457 Mined off Ostend, Belgium, 05/11/44

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2465035

Service Number C/JX 355711

Tottenham Middlesex

Flotilla 4
TARE GREEN BEACH-Normandy, 1944
Utah Beach - Lt. Cmdr. Louis E. Hubbard

Flotilla 4: Lt LEHubbard
Group 10: Lt(jg) SSSLocum, Jr.
Group 11: Lt(jg) ECNewman
Group 12: Lt(jg) JESlainhour
Wave HHour+ Division/Group Hull # Oinch/AOinch
13 H+110 10/19 LCT(5) 457 JCulpepper JFeaster

http://ww2lct.org/history/flotillas/
Utah Beach, Flotilla 4, Lt. Cmdr. Louis E. Hubbard

http://users.pandora.be/tree/db/histories/histories_l_r.aspl?nl
LCT(R)457 started life as LCT(3)457 before conversion. LCT (3): 457 Built: 1941-1942. Builders:Redpath Brown (Meadowside). Displacement: 350/640 tons. Dimensions: 175(pp) Length 190ft (oa)xbeam 31ftxdraught 3ft(Light) 7ft (Loaded). Machinery: 2-shaft Davy Paxman diesel motors. B.H.P. 920 at 10 knots Armament: 2x pdr or 2x20mm guns. Complement: 12 crew. Tanks:- 5 at 40 ton or 11 at 30 ton. Lorries:- 10 at 3 ton. Conversions from LCT(3) to LCT (R) could rapidly revert back to LCT (3). These vessels were consequently not numbered. Fitted with false decks on which 5inch rockets (180x6) were electronically fired in 24 salvoes at a fixed range of 3,500 yards saturating a beach area of 750x160 yards with a density of one rocket per 100 sq yards. Either H.E. or C.S.A. , or incendiary heads could be fitted to the rockets. The only war loss of LCT(R) was 457 in 1944. De LCTR (Landing Craft Tanks, Rocket type, MKIII) 457 was een Engelse omgebouwde LST. In plaats van tanks waren er raketlanceerinstallaties aan boord. Het schip had een lengte van 63 meter, een breedte van 10 meter, een waterverplaatsing van 421 ton en liep 11 knopen. Op 5 november 1944 liep het schip op een mijn toen het op weg was naar de Walcherese kust. Het is het enige in zijn soort dat verging. (andere bron) Landing Craft Tanks, Mk III, omgebouwd tot ‘Rocket Type’. 560 brutoton, gebouwd tussen 1941 en 1944. Afmetingen: 58,5 mx9,45 mx1,65 m. Machines: 2-shaft Paxman diesels (10,5 kn.). Bewapening: twee 2pdr. pompom’s, 2 –20 mm. Bij de geconverteerde versie werd een vals dek en valse opbouw geconstrueerd om ondersteuning te bieden aan de 1.044 raketten van 5 inch, die elektrisch werden afgevuurd in salvo’s vanaf een vaste afstand van 3 km. Als enige LCT(R) vergaan tijdens raid op Walcheren, wellicht door mijn ontploffing.

http://users.pandora.be/tree/wrakken/wrakken-database/detail_query.aspl?filter=77
LCT(R)457 started life as LCT(3)457 before conversion. LCT (3): 457 Built: 1941-1942. Builders:Redpath Brown (Meadowside). Displacement: 350/640 tons. Dimensions: 175(pp) Length 190ft (oa)xbeam 31ftxdraught 3ft(Light) 7ft (Loaded). Machinery: 2-shaft Davy Paxman diesel motors. B.H.P. 920 at 10 knots Armament: 2x pdr or 2x20mm guns. Complement: 12 crew. Tanks:- 5 at 40 ton or 11 at 30 ton. Lorries:- 10 at 3 ton. Conversions from LCT(3) to LCT (R) could rapidly revert back to LCT (3). These vessels were consequently not numbered. Fitted with false decks on which 5inch rockets (180x6) were electronically fired in 24 salvoes at a fixed range of 3,500 yards saturating a beach area of 750x160 yards with a density of one rocket per 100 sq yards. Either H.E. or C.S.A. , or incendiary heads could be fitted to the rockets. The only war loss of LCT(R) was 457 in 1944.

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http://home.wxs.nl/~lange133/wrecks-wrakken/LCTR.asp

The ship ran into a mine that caused an explosion at the rear of the vessel. The vessel contained rocket launchers (instead of tanks) and ran into a mine on Nov 5 1944 while on its way to Walcheren (off the Dutch coast). It's the only ship of its kind (a so-called LCT, landing craft tank - converted to 'Rocket type') that sank in the war.

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Operation INFATUATE - 1 to 8 NOV 1944
http://www.combinedops.com/Walcheren.asp

Captain Lorenzo S. SABIN Jr – organized 12 December 1943 as Gunfire Support Craft group consisting of (Reverse Lend-Lease) British-built support landing craft, split into 2 separate forces: Force 'Oboe' in support of Omaha Beach landings with 9 LCT(R) + 7 LCF + 5 LCG(L) + 18 LCT(A) + 32 LCP(L) under Captain Lorenzo S. Sabin Jr himself, and Force 'Uncle' in support of Utah Beach landings with 5 LCT (R) + 4 LCF + 4 LCG(L) + 8 LCT(A) + 16 (LCP(L) under Lieutenant-Commander L.E. Hart Jr

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http://www.combinedops.com/LCT_980.asp

It is worthy of note that many LCTs were converted for other operations. For example, some became LCG which had one large gun mounted for beach bombardment etc. Others for which I had been trained were made into LCT(R)s which were rocket firing vessels with tremendous fire power. I saw one of these hit by a German shell at Walcheren and it disappeared off the sea in one mighty explosion. While we were only about three hundred yards away, and I actually watched it happening, to this day I cannot remember the sound of the explosion. Many of our vessels were completely destroyed or damaged beyond repair.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/70/a8995170.shtml

Another major disaster was when one of the rocket ships received direct hits that prematurely set off the rockets most of which landed amongst the convoy causing more casualties.

We had almost finished transferring the casualties when there was a terrific explosion on the far side of the hospital ship, apparently, another ship that was also transferring casualties had been hit by a floating mine and sank within minutes.

Ralph Rayner - 2006
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http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Memoir-Walcheren.asp

11. 'LITTLE
London Daily Mirror
Nov 2 1944

Running unflinchingly and directly into the fire of the mighty German shore batteries on Walcheren island, small thin hulled British amphibious support vessels fought a battle the like of which sailors who were at Dieppe or Normandy had never seen before.

There were heavy losses. The little ships kept their guns hot until they went down or were forced to retire with holes in their sides and bleeding men on their decks.

Men on the ships, gunboats, rocket ships, and other small craft had been told to engage at point blank range, and knock out if possible, the fixed German gun emplacements lining the dykes and high ground near West Kapelle on the Western side of the island.

They went in with all their guns firing, troop laden craft went up behind them to discharge their loads

With our ships some thousand yards from shore the German guns opened up. Suddenly fire belched aboard one, she swung around in the water, another got a direct hit, another raced into the shore with all her guns firing, and turned out again with a single officer left on her bridge and holes in her sides.

One gunboat went into the shore, was hit, floundered, and made a last burst to the shore.

The Headquartership LCH 269 was nearly blown out of the water three times, it was a fight lasting nearly five hours.

During the fight, shells bounced off many of the five and six foot thick German gun emplacements without effect, until the Commandos were landed, and cut open the gun emplacements with flame throwers and grenades.

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From: Jeffrey Turner on 11th May 2007

Hello John
Thanks for your contact. I hope you find the following of some interest and help.
My father was James Frederick Turner one of the, he believed, very few survivors of LCT R 457. He was very seriously wounded as a result of the sinking of the above. Throughout my childhood I was aware that my father had suffered multiple injuries during his service with the Royal Navy, however the subject was never discussed in any detail. Towards the end of 1979 after a round of golf at my father's club (which incidently he thrashed me!) our conversation after a few gins turned to the family history and I finally learnt in more detail what happened on 5 November 1944. My father believed that their vessel had hit a mine, which as far as I can tell from documetation that I have seen was correct. The location was apparently off Ostend. After the initial explosion there appears that the abandon ship order had been given when a secondary larger explosion took place (possibly some remaining ordnance exploding?). My father was assisting another member of the crew when the second explosion took place. He found himself blown into what he believed was the radio shack after which he staggered to the side and dived into the water. Upon surfacing he went to brush his hand through his hair and found his skull too have been split wide open (the scar of which I was always aware of was some 6-7'long).ieved that the skipper was one of the survivors. Apparently most of his uniform had dissapeared as a result of the secondary detonation (also identification which had ramifications later on). My father believed to the end of his life that there were very few survivors. I never heard my father mention by name any other members of the crew so unfortunatly I cannot give you any further information about your relative but I would have thought that on a relatively small vessel they would have been known to each other.
As I said previously my father said very little about the above indeed my mother never knew of any details until after my father's death when I related the above story to her. If you have any further knowledge or information about LCTR 457 I would be very very interested.
Hope the above is of some interest to you. It is nice to know that these very brave men are not forgotten.
Best regards
Jeffrey Turner

LCT 457 51°24',670 N 02°43',720 E
12miles offshore
Size 63m x 10m
21m down
lying 67°
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http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1944-11NOV.asp

LCT(R).457, ship loss
BATCHFORD, Cyril K, Ordinary Signalman, P/JX 613741, MPK
BOEG, Herbert J E, Act/Able Seaman, C/JX 355711, MPK
COLLIER, Norman, Petty Officer Motor Mechanic, C/MX 573314, killed
DAVY, John W Y, Telegraphist, C/JX 361096, MPK
FISHER, John E, Ty/Act/Sub Lieutenant, RNVR, MPK
FOSTER, Harry W, Stoker 1c, D/KX 157635, MPK
HAYLES, Eric R, Wireman (L), P/MX 713238, MPK
HOLMES, Kenneth L J, Ty/Sub Lieutenant, RNVR, MPK
MARTIN, William N, Stoker 1c, D/KX 159462, MPK
MCINTOSH, Peter, Able Seaman, P/JX 358917, MPK
MCMILLAN, Louis G E, Ty/Act/Lieutenant, RNVR, killed
MCURICH, Harry, Able Seaman, C/JX 391623, MPK
PARSONS, Walter R, Act/Petty Officer Radio Mechanic, P/MX 124814, MPK
RAMBRIDGE, Thomas, Ty/Act/Leading Stoker, D/KX 151471, MPK
SARGENT, Thomas, Able Seaman, D/JX 391571, MPK
SMITH, Arthur G, Able Seaman, P/JX 444377, MPK
SOPER, Cornelius, Ty/Act/Leading Signalman, C/JX 187818, MPK
SPRATT, Frederick R, Ordinary Seaman, D/JX 422830, MPK
TAPSELL, Ernest J, Telegraphist, C/JX 234186, MPK
TAYLOR, Douglas P, Ordinary Telegraphist, D/JX 454425, MPK
TEDCASTLE, Maurice W, Ty/Lieutenant, RNVR, killed
TERRY, David, Ordnance Artificer 4c, C/MX 119160, MPK
THORNBOROUGH, Leslie J, Wireman, D/MX 570369, killed
WOOLACOTT, William N, Ordinary Telegraphist, D/JX 357026, killed
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http://www.combinedops.com/Landing Craft Support Squadron.asp
Then towards the end of October we prepared 6 LCGs, 6 LCFs, 5 LCT(R)s together with 6 smaller support craft armed with guns and smoke mortars and 2 LCG(M) (medium) for a further action. This done we sailed from Poole for Ostend and on October 31st we received our orders. D-day was Nov 1st with H-hour 09.45. Our purpose was to support the Royal Marine Commando landing at Westkapple on Walcheren in the Sheldt estuary. Three heavy warships, HMS Warspite and the monitors HMS Roberts and HMS Erebus, all with 15-inch guns, were to support us. We would go in under cover of an aerial bombardment.

Occupation: Able Seaman, Royal Navy

Age: 19y

Cause: LCT(R) 457 mined off Ostend, Belgium, as part of operation INFATUATE

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Martin, Sarah Elizabeth Dell (b. 2 APR 1794, d. 19 JUN 1876)

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Birth: 02 APR 1794 Croydon, Surrey
Christening: 24 AUG 1794 St John The Baptist, Croydon
Parents: George MARTIN and Elisabeth (from the IGI)

Christening: 26 OCT 1794 St Mary at Lambeth, Surrey/London
Parents: Joseph MARTIN and Lucy